# Ambiguous Initial Payment Date **URL:** \ **Category:** Legal\ **Created:** [19 June 2026 14:02 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/ambiguous-initial-payment-date/90197 "2026-06-19T14:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![David240](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.openrent.co.uk/david240/32/29827_2.png) [@David240](https://community.openrent.co.uk/u/David240)\ **Post date:** [19 June 2026 15:03 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/ambiguous-initial-payment-date/90197/2 "2026-06-19T15:03:50Z")
> [@Christopher65](#): > > Personally, I think there should be an option to either select - ‘Upon signing’, or ‘on a specified date’ or ‘by the commencement date’, but either way, the current language is ambiguous and contradictory and shouldn’t be used in a legal agreement. > > I think not addressing issues like this is unacceptable if they are brought to the attention of Openrent. @Christopher65 Erm but you can add a specific custom clause yourself. It’s totally straightforward. I happen to agree that specifying when initial payment to be made more exactly would be good for both LL and tenant to avoid any confusion. The OR draft equally says little on ventilation and nothing on what happens if a tenant leaves possessions behind after tenancy. But OR won’t change their new APT template 2 months after use unless lots of LLs complain.. We all have different things we’d like to have in the standard OR template - there is a lot more detail in other APTs. For example the original gov AST allowed you to not only specify a date but also whether payment would be cash, cheque, standing order. (Source: [GOV.UK](http://GOV.UK) [No longer available - GOV.UK](https://share.google/h8VaVNebozJspnCAq) ) Some tenancies have gardens or pets where extra clauses warranted etc etc See other threads > [@Which APT to use?](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/which-apt-to-use/90058/7): > > There were a lot of amendments but I’ve built them up over the last two decades after problems with tenants . They’ve been proof read by my solicitor and the university . Nothing is unreasonable and it’s just more detail than a boilerplate contract . I read an ARLA contract 8 years ago and it was the best contract I’ve read so far . It had a huge amount of detail. Eg acting in a tenant like manner ( which was coined by Lord Denning in 1953 Warren vs Keen ) . I’ve included responsibility o… Best --- _[View the full topic](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/ambiguous-initial-payment-date/90197)._