Lee , your in cloud cuckoo land !
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Please speak to a solicitor who specializes in tenancy law. I think they would enjoy the laugh!
This is literally exactly like the work situation I proposed. A person in power (the landlord, who has the power to remove the tenant’s housing) asking a layperson to sign away their rights, which are protected by uk law.
The document itself would be proof of the landlord’s crime, and if you believe there are no unscrupulous tenants who will agree to an unlawful contract just to take the landlord to court and screw them over- you are certainly naive!
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If you’re a landlord then it’s in your best interest to have a solicitor you trust to run contracts by and seek advice regarding issues such as this. If you’re a tenant, it’s still not a terrible idea to understand your rights more fully but you’ve got a lot less to lose than a landlord does.
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Wow are you for real???
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all folks . Might as well leave it now. All simply do what you believe to be right. this can go on and on ; Do we not have better things to do?
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Always been happy to do that Chris. Insurance/Bond no problem.
I’ll ask you again Ryan. Are you a lawyer or studied Law?
Do you even know what entering into legal relations mean? You do it everyday in normal life.
Unless you’ve studied contract law please do not preach your subjective ignorant comments to someone who has.
Who is this Clown Geoff on this forum. I bet any money you like he’s one of these people renting out flea pits whilst raking in DSS money.
Anyone of intellect would be straight away put off upon meeting him.
Post after post of unpunctuated rants.
Calm down old boy.
Hey people no need for insults. Lee are you a tenant or a landlord ? People, no need to have the last word, STOP> . One person here will always want the last word. We are wasting our breath ,by replying. Openrent will delete all of this if insults fly around. We have different views, its not WW3
Colin. That man is a rude arrogant uneducated fool spouting his subjective views on here.
I’ve tried to be nice but he shows no respect whatsoever for his peers.
I initially commented on this forum as a pet owner hoping to find some empathy and friendly advice. All I have mainly received is comments from people who are anti pet and think they know the law when I suggested a dog bond,
Being someone who’s studied law and carried out 101 Section 21 procedures through to bailiff stage I’ve seen it all.
Finally, most of these people on here should reflect on as to why the Tenant fees act was passed into law. To bring into check one part of an industry that seems to think they can charge what they like.
The Tenant Reform Bill will be given Royal Assent in 2021. This will further tighten up the rules and regulations on landlords and letting agents. Why where these statutes introduced? To put a stop to a corrupt industry. Just as the deposit scheme was introduced ten or so years ago.
Lee. The tenant fees act explicitly states landlords can’t take a pet bond in the government guidance to landlords. It used to be possible but since 2019 hasn’t been. I have previously taken them, it simply isn’t possible now. A landlord taking them would be subject to 5k fine, rising to 30k for repeated offences. It simply isn’t worth the risk.
I appreciate it is frustrating, as a pet loving landlord I would love to be able to take on more tenants with pets but under the current laws it simply isn’t possible to mitigate the risks. I would suggest you read the government guidance on the tenant fees act for landlords. It is unfortunately an impact that giving tenants protections can limit options available to tenants.
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Lee I totally agree about fees charged by agents and landlord I had always found my own tenants up to about 5 years ago then I used an agent. I never realised they charged the tenant a fee. I knew they charged me ! So fees for tenants abolished, not for landlords you notice ? So now openrent is a great place for a landlord to list a property. The landlord has to pay the fee to check on a tenant. Not the tenant so no risk to them ! See how one sided its getting? Now an eviction is 6 months… Further one sided. . Now proposals to make Landlords take pets, further one sided. So now I won t buy any more homes to rent ,I will concentrate on commercial properties ,and have done so, More would be landlords will be put off doing so and yet we need places to rent. The pendulum has swung too far
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Iforgot the corruption point… Some Landlords are that way. BUT so are many tenants They LIE. I had 35 people after one place …75% of them lied in the pre appliction. That is corruption also. but the law will not Fine them, , as it will a landlord… One sided again. As you are not a landlord you won t see it as we do with regards to pets or any other topic. Pet bond or not, some landlords are O K with pets others are not, its our choice its our £££££ at risk
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Consult with a legal expert in tenancy law before chastising me, your head is so far up your ass on this it’s ludicrous.
I’m telling you to consult a legal expert on your own because, as any legal expert will tell you, it is unlawful to give professional legal advice in this kind of capacity. Speak to your own solicitor. They’ll set you straight.
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Lee, just for your record I have a strong portfolio of quality property which all currently have working tenants. AND NO PETS! Now if you can’t stand the heat perhaps it’s time you and your dog got out of the fire.
After talking to several experienced Landlords on this site If you still haven’t got the point of your absolutely stupid advice perhaps you need to call it a day or buy a tent and with a farmers kind permission stick it in a field as far away as possible with as many pets as your little heart desires.
I eat people like you for breakfast so if you have any further conjecture… bring it on !!
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You make some good points Colin. I’ve been trying to do the same with pets.
I’ve rented privately for nearly 20 years and all my landlords have been good people. I am 100% on the side of the property owner as to who they let there house to.
This new tenant 5 weeks fee can easily be avoided. I’d happily pay 2 months upfront if it allowed for my dog. A small caveat in the agreement signed by both parties isn’t illegal.
I’m just exasperated by the vitriol of the comments since I first joined the discussion.
As I’ve stated previously on this forum I’ve done a 101 Section 21 notices through to bailiffs and more often than not the landlord loses 6 months rent plus a 2K plus getting it to the bailiff situation. That needs to change.
The tenant reform bill does as you say, swing the pendulum to an extent the other way so I don’t blame you deciding to do business in a different market.
For me, all I wish is that I could meet the landlord face to face and propose an offer. Instead agency after agency post the generic list that includes no pets.
I wish you well for the future. As for me, we’ll law if averages something decent will come up soon.
Regards
Lee
Lee I always meet folks face to face as I want to “like” them and gel with them. I have had tenants who I have taken no deposit from, as I have known them for years . I have two tenants of 22 years standing in 2 different places, I dont renew their lease every 6 months … They pay the rent they can stay. is my motto. I have also had tenants who paid 6 months upfront (their suggestion)… It takes all sorts in life… I have to like them , they have to like me , Its 2-way. But I do NOT like to be blagged to. If they.Lie to me once and they wont be a tenant of mine Agencies usually wont let you speak to a landlord because of their vested interests but you can find who owns a place thru Land Registry for a small fee That may be a route to speak with a landlord
I am a legal expert Ryan.
Furthermore, if you are going to throw such stupid advice at me without any reference to the laws you are relying upon as in section and subsection of an act your comments lack any credibility.
Finally throwing insults at me just confirms that you have lost the argument.
Grow up.
If you’re a legal expert then you would know that parts of contracts are seen as unenforceable all the time and that a landlord putting an unlawful clause in is in itself proof of the unlawful action.
Look up what happens to a landlord who takes a deposit of more than 5 weeks’ rent. That’s a very clear legal situation. It doesn’t matter if they have the tenant sign in blood that the tenant consents to the larger deposit.
The landlord is up shit creek and can be facing a massive financial blow.
Asking your tenant to pay fees/deposits/bond/anything in excess of what you are legally allowed to is unlawful.
An unscrupulous tenant will gleefully agree to something unlawful for the express purpose of suing you for every cent they are then legally entitled to.