LL requesting rent increase outside of Rent Review clause timing

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Congratulations! A great outcome.

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Colin , Maybe it’s because you took every opportunity to be unnecessarily hostile towards them in all of your posts. Confusing to me as clearly the poster was absolutely accurate in their interpretation of their contract. There is no ambiguity in this case that I can see- no matter how much that might inconvenience their LL! And as for the posters that suggested that the tenant should be wary of the threat of a section 21 eviction if they don’t appease their LL , that is a completely unacceptable attitude which makes me very relieved that the Renters’ Rights Bill is coming in and will prevent LLs from issuing section 21 without sound legal reason.

Because it concerns me to see the strangely entitled attitude of ‘the property is mine therefore I can do what I want with it ’ when in fact you cannot. If you want to have completely free rein over your property, then don’t rent it out. But if you want to provide a service in return for payment, then you must provide that service well and fairly and accept the tenants rights.
It’s not complicated.

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The situation is unacceptable. Warning Ts of the implications of their behaviour under current legislation is completely acceptable. In fact, NOT doing so would be unhelpful.

I assume you’re not a LL. No good LL would agree with your statement here. Taking the time to learn how to “provide that service well and fairly” is extremely complicated which is one reason why there are few that do it well, despite legislation to force them to.

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Wait and see what the rent rise is for them next year ? No answer to “did the landlord increase the rent by 15% last year?” They may have won this one ,life has a funny way of biting you in the rear. Let me be clear the property is mine and I will do what I want with it, .My tenants average 10 years or so ,one being there 32 years I must be O K then ?. So you as a newbie on here need to read the 1000 s of posts previous ,to get an understanding of a landlords job .

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You assume wrong. and interesting that you should think that? I guess you expect all landlords to side with other landlords? I am a landlord at present and actually the ethics of it are not at all complicated for me. However what i actually meant by, “it’s not complicated”, in this instance is that the original question regarding the meaning of the particular clause in their tenancy agreement was not complicated . it was quite clear.

Regarding your ‘caution’ yes according to current legislation it’s possible for unreasonable landlords to do that ( although why they would to a reliable good tenant and risk a delay in renting or the possibility of a not so good tenant in their place i do not know? )

Thankfully in the coming months it won’t be possible anymore for LL to arbitrarily evict people out of spite! In my view, Your response read very much like a caution that they should to appease the landlord despite the LL clearly being at fault . which I think was a flawed attitude to have… Surely we should all be striving for best practice and not racing to the bottom?

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again quite rude Colin .

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That is not rude .I am being modest in my answer . You want rude . Hang in there. A case of the pot calling the kettle black . Goodbye . Over and out

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Yes I did, just as you did in assuming that I expect all LLs to side with other LLs. At least we have the ability to make false assumptions in common if nothing else.

My response was, like any responsible advice on here, intended to encourage them to consider possible negative outcomes of their approach irrespective of the legal standing of the contract clause. I gave that advice for the very reason that many, possibly most, LLs are actually unreasonable and I didn’t want them to be unaware of the implications. Why would you consider that a “flawed attitude” and “racing to the bottom”? Mystery to me so if you want to civilly explain yourself, I’m all ears.

The agreement in their clause was not worded clearly, in my opinion, and that’s about the best you can say also because, like all legal contracts, the clarity of clauses is a matter of legal opinion, not absolutes.