# Refurb and plumbing **URL:** \ **Category:** Landlord Discussion\ **Created:** [26 February 2022 00:11 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/refurb-and-plumbing/31337 "2022-02-26T00:11:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dave7](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.openrent.co.uk/dave7/32/450_2.png) [@Dave7](https://community.openrent.co.uk/u/Dave7)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2022 00:11 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/refurb-and-plumbing/31337/1 "2022-02-26T00:11:03Z")
I am looking at some refurb possibilities on a property and questions are as follows Is it true that you can’t change position of a toilet? e.g. moving it to another position as it needs to connected to the main waste pipe as close as possible? also if you have a kitchen right next to a living room, e.g. no landing no corridor but just a door and wall separates them, are you able to change that into a bedroom legally? e.g. you sell this property calling it 2 bed instead of 1 bed? any suggestion helps! ---
**Author:** ![Mita](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.openrent.co.uk/mita/32/2027_2.png) [@Mita](https://community.openrent.co.uk/u/Mita)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2022 00:46 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/refurb-and-plumbing/31337/2 "2022-02-26T00:46:21Z")
Changing the position of the toilet depends on whether it’s connected by a cast iron or PVC pipe, the former being more difficult to change. I’d recommend checking with a builder/plumber or a bathroom shop. Generally changing the position of the toilet will increase your budget significantly and I would always try to avoid doing this on a rental refurb. Wrt the living room next to kitchen, I can’t see why you wouldn’t be able to turn the living room into a second bedroom. I would usually let the market / demand decide the best use of this room, e.g. with more people working from home, there might be higher demand for separate living / home office space. Additionally if the tenant has to go through that living room to get to the kitchen, then turning that into a bedroom won’t be practical. ---
**Author:** ![Dave7](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.openrent.co.uk/dave7/32/450_2.png) [@Dave7](https://community.openrent.co.uk/u/Dave7)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2022 02:06 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/refurb-and-plumbing/31337/3 "2022-02-26T02:06:01Z")
I was more on the kitchen becomes a bedroom so kitchen joins with the living room. About how to count as a bedroom, i got this question because when there is a loft you need a certain landing or stair space to actually making it into a bedroom. so I wonder if it is the same for flats that you have a bedroom door next to your living room. e.g. do you need to artificially to make a hallway or landing. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/community.openrent.co.uk/system/32/11_2.png) [@system](https://community.openrent.co.uk/u/system)\ **Post date:** [9 August 2022 12:53 UTC](https://community.openrent.co.uk/t/refurb-and-plumbing/31337/4 "2022-08-09T12:53:09Z")