The contractor did not find anything on first visit and will come back again for a second visit to both flats.
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I have seen paint flake of a ceiling when there was no pipes above . Just not found the cause
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Is there an obvious place for the leak like bathroom, sink, central heating pipework runs? Have you seen the location regards an invitation for you to inspect? Might it be an area where they dry washing or similar? Is the damage so bad it warrants a new ceiling which might be around £1000 plus? Plasterboard damage or simply plastering or artexing. Have the boards bowed downwards in shape and showing the plasterboard joints? All these questions need a second and third opinion. Do flats or apartments have special insurance to cover issues that take account of upper or lower shared apartments.
This is unlikely to go away as an issue so surely for your future peace of mind why don’t you heed advice given on this portal- call a recommended plumber via your insurance and get a report that might very well be able to prove the problem is not from your property thereby ending the matter.
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Building insurance wont cover call out charge . They only cover trace + access plus damage caused by the boiler . We have got a contractor in doing investigations as per posts above.
I am interested in how plastic reacts with copper ?
Good question. I missed that
Speed fit had issues with a certain design they used. Caused major leaking issues and were subject to lawsuits.
I believe it was the rubber formulation in the o-ring that was the issue and only occurred when fitted to copper.
Also, different materials expand and contract at different rates causing movement and loosening. If you tightened 2 nuts of different metals against each other they could work loose.
I always use conex compression joints with plastic pipe using an insert in the plastic .I do not trust the plastic push fit
Agreed. Have had to replace a few end caps with compression where someone had used speed fit on copper and then it leaked.
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Hi,
As a plasterer by trade, it’s very unlikely that they could prove it’s you that caused the blistering.
There could be a ton of separate environmental factors that cause this. How much do they heat their apartment How old is the ceiling etc?
Is it getting worse? Is it a big area?
The investigation might cost more than just fixing it.
But also there’s no way they are going to expend the cost by pursuing it legally.
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I had a similar issue, where the flat downstairs had a problem due to bath water overflow in my flat. The tenants, 2 Mormon monks apologised. They loved baths but a phone call response made the bath overflow.
I was able to claim on block management insurance but ended up paying the access of £250. I felt maybe it was totally the tennats fault. I went to see the damage in the downstairs flat. The tenants there were very appreciative that I went to see it and said I shall resolve the issue. Their landlord lived far away and never visited and said to them that thye will have to pay if I did not resolve the issue. I did suggest their landlord to go and claim from insurance and I shall pay the access, as that is what the insurance company suggested to me but that landlord would not listen. The same happened in my apartment, damage from upstairs and the owner would not listen to anything. My tenant said she will sort out as it was too much damage. This was more than 100 miles away for me in Swindon flats. My tenant bought the flat after awhile in 2020 just before covid.
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Often small leaks from the rear of white appliances go undetected.
The next issue is the water traverses all over the place and appears anywhere.
I had Case just like this. A bugger to prove but cleRly the case. Also if waste pipes are blocked and theres a blow back, the water from this could cause issues.
So the first thing I would do is to check all your white goods, water connections and evacuation. Your sink baths & showers. Often the back of the shower in the cavity if there is one, or stud work needs and a course you can’t see that either.
The neighbours below should’ve reported it as soon as they saw there was an issue because if they have a steamy bathroom, kitchen that could also be causing issues.
As stated you Or they could go of our insurancecould go via Insurance. The insurance company would decide what the problem is and whose company would pay.
Of course premiums would go up.
Simplest way forward is to turn everything off in your flat, go to your water meter and see if the little dial is spinning if it is you have a mains water leak somewhere, likewise for your neighbour.
If it is isn’t spinning with everything off, then you know you don’t have a mains water problem.
If it is spinning then what you need to do is to go to your internal stop tap turn that off and go back to the water meter if it has stopped it means you have a leak inside your property on your mains water, if it hasn’t stopped you have a leak between your stop tap and your meter.