End periodic tenancy help/support

Tenant Discussion
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Thanks for the help all.

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Your rent repaying date is 30th. Notice given on 2nd April will expire the day before the rent payment date after 1 full months notice has been given. ie 29th May 2025.

Your Landlords are correct. You may be able to negotiate, but they may insist on the correct notice period, as clearly stated in the above clause. This clause is also not unusual but is the standard ‘default’ notice period required in Housing regulations.

I also do not understand why you think you have given a months notice on the 2nd April to expire on 30th April. A month from 2nd April is not 30th April.

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I am not an expert by any means although I believe the issue is when you actually served the notice.

The most common wording on tenancy agreements is tenants notice has to be

“one Calendar Month expiring at the end of the rental period.” In which case you would need to serve notice to leave on the rental payment date 30th of March to expire on the 29th of April. You then hand back the keys on the 30th.

In your tenancy, the wording doesn’t include the word Calender month and doesn’t include “to expire at the end of a rental period.” This leaves a month’s notice open to interpretation.

In any case you serving notice on the 2nd day of the month to leave on the last day of the month is not adequate in the eyes of the letting agent. As a private landlord I have undergone some basic landlord training and I can’t adjudicate on this one. I wouldn’t expect a tenant to know how to serve notice correctly in this circumstance. Personally, I would have accepted your notice period and wouldn’t want to hold you back for an additional month for serving notice one day late.

I am sure others will have differing opinions…

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It does…its here…

& to be fair, the word ‘month’ must generally refer to a calender month, unless I’m missing some other type of month? :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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Thanks for your input Karen grateful appreciated.

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Thanks for this, i will directly ask the landlord the question of the notice being this month. As i’m unsure if its a landlord/estate agent decision.

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Karl11

Thanks for correcting me😆

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Interestingly, under the Renters Rights Bill, tenants will have to give two months notice. How this benefits tenants I don’t know.

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could it possibly be because it benefits landlords?

perish the thought…

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lunar or sidereal month?

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Dan2 seems to have deleted his original post, but if the quotes in other posts are accurate, the tenancy agreement seems poorly drafted.

  • “after the expiry of the fixed element”. As far as I am aware the word element has no meaning in housing law, so it renders the clause meaningless until a court dfcides what it means
  • not specifying the type of month again leaves it open to interpretation
  • “must expire the day before the rent due date”. What if the parties agree to change the rent due date

It goes to highlight the importance of obtaining a decent tenancy template before contracting with a tenant.