Advice for Gas and Electric

I’m remodelling a flat unit in one of my buildings and have ripped out the gas boiler and radiators and will install electric convector radiators, as with most of my units. I must admit the radiator pipework installation was appalling and I sold the boiler for £275.

I’ve never had a tenant shy away from the property because of the absence of gas and none have ever complained about the costs of running it even in basement units.

I can fit an all electric system in a 2 bed flat for less than £1,200, including 4 room heaters, 2 shower room heaters a water heater and a shower unit and all the necessary cabling. A gas c/h system would cost you at least 3 times that amount and cause a lot more disruption and take up more space. No baths of course.

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blanket baths in your contracts ?

No, there will be heating so they can have a shower without a blanket over their shoulders…:blush:

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and therein lies the rub. Mostly families with young kids want our 2-3 bed terraced properties and a bath is very desirable for them. Not much fun washing a 2 year old in a shower cubicle… unless you want a shower too! Plus, no one’s installing a GCH system from scratch.

Just curious, what are the elec rads you’re installing? … why 2 shower room heaters in a 2 bed flat?

That’s good, don’t want kids in my flat blocks, just as undesirable as pets.

The OP is. He even says he has no gas so he will have to pay even more for the supply installation from the mains.

Convector radiators.

It has 2 shower rooms…

My earlier post had an error, should have been 2 x shower units.

I meant literally what make/model

surprised you allow pesky tenants in to mess the place up :laughing:

There are dozens of options and it depends on the size of your room, look it up.

ah right… well, I was hoping to learn from someone who had some great experience in this area and you come across as someone who does. The problem I have is that when I go online, there are “dozens of options” and so even having a make that someone recommends as reliable would help narrow down those options.

You’re remodelling a flat right now and have obviously done the research as you were able to provide costs for the entire system. Could you simply let us know what you’ve chosen for your flat?


many people have this in China when living in apartments in cities

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do they bucket the water out of it or use small pump?

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Id bucket the water out to flush wc to save water (as water is charged twice right? clean water in and waste water out) some of these baby bath thing come with a small pump :slight_smile:

I wasn’t trying to be unhelpful, I simply haven’t as yet chosen or bought anything but preliminary research indicates prices are in the region that fits my estimate, £80-130 each depending on size required of course, a small hallway would be adequate with a 750W unit whereas a large room may need a 2.5kW unit.

My original development of 11 flats were fitted with Dimplex thermostatically controlled convector heaters sized to suit the room volume, but you pay a premium for the name / reputation. It’s false economy to install the cheapest available, I won’t mention names here. I recommend you ask your local trusted supplier / tradesman.

I propose using wall mounted fan convector heaters for shower rooms since heated towel radiators are not as serviceable or as instant heat responsive. I’ve learnt this from experience where towel rads corrode badly when tenants do not take care of the atmosphere with proper heating and ventilation, so much for trying to provide better facilities and a bit of luxury.
Same with carpets, I’d never experience carpet moths until I put good wool carpets in tenanted property, now everything is polypropylene.

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will your EPC rating be C or above?

Quite possibly, but it already had a ‘C’ with damp and mould which we’re getting rid of in favour of well insulated independent lining walls and raised floors with loads of insulation beneath.

We have a block of flats that mostly have this system installed and there are some on a 'C" rating. It reduces when you put baths in and need a water heating cylinder as the small 15ltr water heaters are not adequate for baths.

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