Latest proposal on pets

It hasn’t happened yet and probably won’t. If it does, there will be limits and caveats and it probably wouldn’t affect you.

Mitra .spot on. You do not have to give a reason for turning someone down

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When I have allowed pets I always requires professional cleaning of the carpets. The problem is that urine stains disappear initially and then re-appear once the carpet has fully dried out.
This tends to fool the inventory clerk who attends just after the clean.

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What an ignorant man you are with your anti pet subjective rant.

Most pet owners are responsible people. Don’t preach all your legal clap trap. Are you a lawyer?

And as for the other post about writing conditions in red. You’re a moron.

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My aunt let the house she owned get like that. I wasn’t allowed to take my shoes off when we visited because the carpets were so filthy.

Some people have major issues,sadly. At least with my aunt it was her own property.

Wow, I’m surprised you even rent your property if tenants are so awful.

Lee, who exactly do you think you are ? Dictating your feelings to a Landlord on what his policy on pets should be in HIS property won’t gain you any points.
You state most pet owners are responsible people? Exactly where are you getting this information from ?
In my experience I would contest this to the extent I don’t believe a word that pet owning tenants say or indeed any promises they make!
I would urge any Landlord who may be considering offering pet accommodation to think long and hard about the long term issues, damage, disputes and hassle they may well encounter.
Why tenants even consider owning a pet when they are living in rented property is beyond me. Most tenants work through the day and believe it an acceptable practice to leave a pet alone in the house fir several hours and of course the inevitable happens and furnishings etc get destroyed which is seldom replaced on a voluntary basis by the tenant.
Then there are the neighbour complaints of constant barking which inevitably rests with the Landlord to sort out!
I’m afraid in my view the bad pet owners have spoiled opportunities for the very few good pet owners and despite government pressure to allow pets in rented property I can confidently state that regardless of any increase in rental income I will not allow pets into any of my properties ever again and I strongly recommend that all Landlords give exceedingly careful consideration before agreeing to do so.

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Ryan, it goes without saying, people can do as they wish in their own property and rightly so. The fact that tenants feel it’s a “given” to go out and buy pets when they live I. Someone else’s property is beyond belief.

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Thankfully I have good tenants in all my properties through careful selection

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Your view is short sighted and subjective and I guess down to bad experiences in the past. I’m not after gaining any points.

In the case of an unfurnished property you have no case to answer. It’s not your furniture.Very few dogs bark all day long. A responsible person would make good any minor damage. People do not have tigers as pets!!

A dog bond could be negotiated on top of the required deposit. Many people renting have older pets that a reference from their previous landlord would allay your fears.

Your right. It’s your properties. Your rules. I hope you maintain your moral high ground to HMRC.

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She lived with 4 kids she couldn’t afford to feed in a shit smeared house.

That isn’t “right to do as they wish”. It’s child abuse and animal abuse. In hindsight it should have been reported.

The point was people are messed up even when it’s their own property. You know damn well that a lot of people don’t care for others’ property the way they do their own. If “I could lose the hundreds of thousands I’ve invested into this property” isn’t enough incentive to keep it nice, then neither will renting!

Why should people care more about someone else’s problem than their own property?

@Lee29 - Pets can destroy floors, doors, walls, even the insulation. No one is concerned about responsible pet owners. They’re concerned about owners who let their pets piss and shit everywhere and leave it to fester. They’re concerned about owners whose pets scratch up hardwood floors and doors to the point they need to be replaced.

An out of control pet and an uncaring owner can do well more than a security deposit’s worth of damage in a year’s time.

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Lee, You really are in cloud cuckoo land. Dogs don’t bark?? Etc,
Tell me, why should I go to all the trouble of allowing pets with all the problems that goes with them when I have virtually a “hassle free” existence in my property’s without them???
Ahh and not that it’s any of your business but yes I do have audited accounts and pay my taxes in full at each year end.
I suggest you apply for a Council house, I understand that they allow as many pets as their tenants want which would suit your standards fine!

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Small minority spoiling it for the majority. I could give right now two excellent references from previous landlords.

Trying to find somewhere nice to live with my 9 year old dog, is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

DSS would ring alarm bells in my head if I was a landlord, before dog owners.

I get it. I really do. However, I think as a landlord you should perhaps meet the prospective tenant and then make a judgement based on references and the person.

I would make good any damage caused by a dog or me. I keep where I live clean and tidy. Sadly I never get a chance to put my case to the landlord.

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The problem is the minority can do such horrendous damage that it’s not worth the risk. Terrible tenants on dss generally do far less damage than an untrained animal.

It sucks that you’re struggling to find a place, but the reality is that references can’t be relied on, landlords legally cannot take an extra pet deposit, and your 9 year old dog is a major gamble.

My poor mil’s landlord probably still has no idea how much damage she let her dog do while the poor thing was incontinent for a year before finally passing. And that’s a woman who had had decades of impeccably responsible animal ownership beforehand. But her health declined and she let her poor dog soak the carpets in piss for a year.

Why take the risk?

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Your opinion. Your property. Your rules. Fine. I don’t dispute that.

But as a suggestion, perhaps just try not stereotyping everyone and think objectively, as there are a lot of pet owners not in your narrow minded world.

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I just pointed out an example of a pet owner with a long history of exemplary, responsible ownership who has let her dog do extreme damage to a property. 3 years ago, no one would have imagined she’d allow that to happen. She’s a woman who has a lot of house pride and used to keep her rentals very well. In the last 2 years she’s let it fall to shit andhercurrent landlord is the poor sap who will be stuck with the bills.

All kinds of things can go wrong with pets. It’s not stereotyping. It’s fact.

Pets are objectively a greater risk to a landlord than humans alone.

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there are good pet owners, but we all have knowledge of the bad ones, this just puts us off… Imagine saying to a prospective tenant with a dog. " can I come to your present home to see if it smells of dog, if you clean up after it, and ask the neighbours does it bark a lot when you are at work ?" You may not mind but a mouthfull would come the landlords way .

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I see your point Ryan. I do understand. I really do.

For me, it’s just a case of keep on trying. I did find a place. Been completely refurbished. It was lovely and I could have had it. Sadly I felt it was a bit out of my price range.

The difference? Owner had 2 dogs.

Law of averages I’ll find somewhere eventually.

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Well all I can say to that, having executed and managed the Section 21 process many times for landlords, all where DSS, many foreign and the state of the properties you wouldn’t let a dog sleep in.

If I was a landlord I wouldn’t touch DSS with a barge pole.

So it’s swings and roundabouts and all about what people perceive. What I do know is treat every individual with an open mind. Don’t stereotype and think objectively.

Finally, it’s now illegal to not accept DSS if you didn’t know. The Tenant Fees Bill, and when passed, the renters reform bill is, in my opinion not good news for landlords.

Find me a nice place for me and my dog and in return I’ll take care of your legal problems for a vastly reduced fee😉

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Actually, if you re-read the message from Lee, he stated that dogs don’t bark all day!