Moving from gas to electrics

Landlord Discussion
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Hi,
Couple.of weeks ago property failed a cp12 check (up for renewal in oct).
Cooker hob was fine but safety mechanism where closing lid cut off the gas didnt work.
Apparently no-one in south london available to fix this (let ms know if otherwise, will pay a good price).

So now, plan to buy an electric cooker to replace the old gas one. Appreciate there will be installation / removal of old cooker charges. But after that I wont have any gas appliances in use.

Does this mean I dont need a cp12 ? Or do I still need one, even though there are no active gas powered devices in use anymore.

Anyone who can offer some further pointers do please let me know.

Thanks

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how do you heat the property?

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Will you be disconnecting / capping off the gas meter? I suspect if not, you will still need an inspection.

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If there is a gas meter you need a check.
Get the meter removed ( it will save you on standing charges too) as the tenant won’t thank you for paying for its presence if it’s redundant

The utility company dissuade against this but stand your ground as they make money on the standing charged

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Thanks for all your responses. Theres a heat pump with a new boiler so tenant does not use the old boiler which was in place.

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Get the gas capped off outside.

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Would suggest getting gas supply disconnected and meter removed otherwise whilst you will not have the need for a Gas Safety Certificate because of no appliances, you or tenants will likely still have to pay a standing charge for the supply of gas you are not using.

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They will not just remove the meter , they will cut the supply off in the street within a year of you having it removed and not re fitting . I have a commercial unit. ,Shell UK wanted to put my Standing charge up to £14 a DAY. Robbers…Told them to remove it ,they did so ,then within a year cut it off in the pavement ,for “safety” reasons I was not bothered as I did not need any heat ,I put on an extra layer. So you can imagine ,if you later want it restored the robbing installers will cost you an arm and a leg

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Thanks very much Martin. Definitely sounds like a good idea. Will do that for sure. Cheers.

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Cheers Colin. Will definitely keep an eye out for that, as that is just insane.

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30 years ago I got gas meters put in a house in 3 flats for free. Now days you will pay . It may well be cheaper in the long run to pay the standing charge if you plan to reinstate? The company who supply gas rent the meters off another firm, then it is installed by yet another company . The reverse action is also true All taking a cut. !

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I have removed meters and then reinstalled with Utilita and its free.
Eon charges but Utilita dont.
The only charge I have paid is to install a new gas supply into a house or relocate a gas supply

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Thank you all for your help here. Can I just ask, if I’m putting a new electric cooker, do I need a dedicated circuit / plug for this (presumably leading back to my fuse box etc.)

There are working power sockets there already of course. Just wanted to know if the fact this was a rental property changed any of the regulations.

Thanks

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Bs 7671 states cooking equipment exceeding 2 kw must not be permanently connected to a ring final circuit.

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If it’s an HMO you will definitely need to have your cooker on its own circuit if the cooker on switch has its own plug which is costly
If not the kitchen sockets go on separate fuse I think
Speak to an electrician

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The electric cooker manual may tell you the size of cable needed . It will tell you the power of the cooker. A dedicated cable is always best

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