its great that we manage to keep a sense of humour. Unfortunately I donāt feel confident anymore and am actually finding it daunting to finding a new tenant as my lovely young ones are buying their own home. Well deserved too. I put it on the rental market but 2 couples failed the referencing at Ā£20 a time. That wouldnāt happen if each applicant was still paying for their own. As it should be. I will give it 2 weeks then It goes up for sale if the past quality is not there.
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It can be a nervous time. we just need to be more cautious and not rush the job. I have got one coming empty this month. the romainian couple have been great. Last time it took 34 applicants and 4 viewings before i found them. At least the Ā£20 is tax deductable
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Iāve been doing that with ours for the last few years and getting a bit sick of it now!
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Wow you seem to have stirred a hornets nest. Atleast there is a clear consensus among landlords. I suppose people do have the right to love animals and own pets. One of my tenants had a cat. It is a difficult call when you think you have the perfect tenant and then they say: by the way ive got a really nice dog. Perhaps ask them to pay for the replacement carpet or laminate flooring before moving in (it works). As for the right to smoke in someone elseās property, well i guess that depends on sharing arrangements. Youād be amazed at how the stench of nicotine can even permeate through brick walls. Even though I ask tenants to smoke outside there are always ones that break the rules and it in my opinion violates the human rights of non-smoking tenants to enjoy their lives. Many including myself, the owner, have experienced breathing difficulties in such situations.
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one of my tenant always smokes outside. .When I talk with her I start coughing if she is smoking. When I did a lot of building work i would not work in a house that had a heavy smoker. My choice/my life
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Hi Christine 2
Thanks for your opinions. I actually have to agree with everything the various Landlords have said and it is interesting to know just how much damage the government has done withe the various changes.
Personally I donāt blame anyone for the responses I have read. Itās no wonder some landlords are selling up and the rest are disenchanted with it all.
The point about a landlord knowing what type of Tennant is going to be best for each property is obviously true.
However I am presently looking for a pet friendly property, its true that parents and per owners defend them beyond sense. But not all surely. I could not in good conscience argue over the obvious, but that said, what really bothers me is that even when the ad says pet friendly they are not when you contact them.
It seems to me that I have an impossible task where are the landlord s that are happy to let to people with Pets, because theyāre always sorry about it and but itās a dead end.
The government has given so many rights to the tenants, donāt they realise some tenants will abuse the system and continue to do so, if the law is on their side, and they donāt deserve the protection of the law. I fact its criminal some of their behaviour oh but thatās OK!!!
Decent tenants lose out, and landlords throw their hands up in despair then sell up. They the government donāt want to see the carnage they have caused, do they care, Mmm thatās questionable.???
Regards and Alayne
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People should try to understand when pets are not allowed. When tenants are renting of course itās their home while renting but now permanent as when some buy the property.
Landlords have to rent and some people do have allergy of pets and even sometimes when property is cleaned but it could affect some people who have allergy to to the pets.
I have seen people have suffered badly and have asked if there were any pets in the flats at any time when they come and view the properties.
This is the another reason I donot allow pets.
Also living in flats and flats are not suitable for cats or dogs and any other pets in cages then itās cruelty too.
There are so many new developments now itās in the lease that do not allow pets in the building. Also I know that housing association donoāt allow pets y to o the council tenants.
Tenants should respect the landlords decision when landlord do not allow and should look for other properties where landlords do allow.
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Hi all I cannot as a pet owner and prospective tenant, find fault with any of the opinions given by the landlords about this pet problem, and I agree that certain property will not for various reasons be pet friendly and that is common sense,. But what about the ones that are, for instance it seem to me that open rent could advertise pet friendly properties that is fool proof. By advertising them on a page or site that is exclusive and only for landlords who are happy to let to pet owners. As it is a complete waste of my/our time as pet owners scrolling through a website such as open rent, that is not a criticism per se, but all letās together lead nowhere for the pet owner.
So, where do I go from here???
āLets throw a wild cardā!!!
Are any Landlords in Scarborough, North Yorkshire with a pet friendly 2 bed, ground floor property, with yard and parking in the town. Reading this post at this time?
If so, and you are on the fence with all this, because you have and are afraid of being let down by a pet owner previously. I will pay for any damages that my cats could cause if and when it occurs.
That said, I will be in Scarborough to visit 2 x landladyās of mine who took me and my pets on trust and were not disappointed. And friends I made whilst there.
So if you are in any doubt of my being a good Tennant you can message me and I will try to fit you into my busy schedule.
Well it may be unconventional, but hey ho!!! I āwhat do you do when you keep hitting a wallā, you go around it. LOL
Kind Regards
Alayne
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Hi Prafula
What you say is correct re health and all your comment on pets are valid except one.
For me that is cats in flats, my cats have been house cats since 1988, because they were at risk of being killed on the roads or taken by people for their fur/pelts as they pass for rabbit fur.
Having had cats all my life, and finding one of mine flattened by a vehicle. It was a loving choice, although inconvenient but worth their safety to keep them as house cats.
Vets donāt have a problem with house cats their view is they donāt miss what they have never had. So for me keeping them safe is my job and doing all I do because I am a responsible loving owner.
There are those who have young very young cats and they let them out, and when they cry to be in because they donāt like the weather, or are frightened or hungry as I came a cross recently with a neighbour, I do wonder why they canāt see the cat is too young and or doesnāt like being locked out, my daughters cat goes into her back garden because it is an enclosed space and is safe, but cries with a howl if her access is closed and fundementaly she is a house cat.
Peopleās views are dictated by their experiences.
Kind regards
I agree with your suggestion Owen. Pets are not right for all people and that includes landlords. i am not a cat lover at all and would not want one in my property. When we bought the flat the lady before had a Tom and by golly could you smell it was a Tom. That turns my stomach. Also They go hunting mice Birds anything that satisfies the chase. The thoughts of that walking all over the work surfaces gives me the heeby jeebies. I do like dogs but in the right environment and not for working people. They are social animals and hate being alone. having said that other people think differently and I respect that. I would never advertise as pet friendly but I think a Pet friendly landlord site would be great for pet ownders.
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Hi Yes I agree, Iām a soft over animals all of them but you have to be sensible, and as you say cats are hunters, so bring in with them, goodness only knows what? They will also get into fights over territories and come back home needing a vet, or worse.
My cats are healthy and clean and do fight amongst themselves at times, but being in, means being safe to me and in a world where people can hurt cats for fun or some other demented reason I couldnāt live with myself if mine got hurt or worse by putting them in danger.
My Mum was allergic to some cats fur, and not to others she was asthmatic.
I just wish that landlords felt comfortable letting to such as myself, I blame the government as well for not protecting landlords from their tenants. Whom now take advantage and are blatently flouting the laws in the faces of landlords and getting away with it, showing the worst misuse of trust thatās possible.
Even I am speechless!!!
Regards
Alayne
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Yes āhavenāt Iā , I wanted to hear all possible views and thoughts. I have not been disappointed by the response, the fact that it is clear now, is the Tenant is protected by the law and the landlord just has to put up with all a Tennant can throw.
Unfortunately for the decent, self respecting, honest, prospective Tenant out there with Pets and other appendages, Landlords are now soured and suspicious,
of every ones honesty, and they will say anything to obtain a property.
This betrayal of trust is and the financial pit falls, an untrustworthy Tennant brings its no wonder that Landlords are selling up.
Leaving tenants with less options again.
I donāt smoke and ask guests to go into the garden, I agree with all you say about that too, but why wouldnāt a Tennant be expected to replace what they have damaged beyond normal or wear and tear its beyond me I would be willing as Iād done the damage. (to me itās all in the upbringing or not as it seems) itās called taking responsibility.
I could go onā¦
Regards
Alayne
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Well if its normal behaviour then the pet owner should pay because normal wear and tear by people is what we are talking about here. This then is a separate issue and should be covered by the owner full stop.
Because pet damage is not (Normal wear and tear) from dogs or other pets.
This is a the whole point it is not normal wear and tear and should be written into the lease (If possible) and made clear in Law if appropriate so landlords cannot lose out.
Is that a viable option? Not sureā¦
Regards
Alayne
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Yes also a separate site/page for pet friendly landlords only, as it doesnāt work for us or me as it is, canāt blame landlords for their choices, they should have more protection from the law
Yes thatās 2 new apps need to organised.
Regards
Alayne
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I have lived in my house for over 30 years. In that time I have looked after my parentsā dogs when they went on holiday - three at a time for many years. I have had urine on my carpet but it wasnāt from the dogs but my nephews - twice. And as children they could not use a toilet properly. So although I donāt allow pets in my property I would like to have banned children too but it seems itās not the done thing. Missing tenant and his wife turned up with one child then popped them out annually in the time they were there.
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You dont actually have to ban children as a landlord but choose tenants who dont have children if possible
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Hi, Two sides to every story. I rented to a young couple and their dog. When they left (owing rent) the left 25 black bin bags full of dog ---- in the lounge and about 30 more in the back yard! The place was a mess. I couldnāt go through that again and itās a shame that decent pet owners suffer due to behaveiour like this.
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Very sorry to hear that, canāt imagine how you felt but understand why you wonāt have pets again
While scrolling TV I sometimes take a look at nightmare tennants I cannot believe that people are such animals, and landlords have to treat them with kid gloves, donāt think I could do it.
How do you differentiate between good and bad tennants and even with checks done as they are nasty people, no wonder landlords are selling up.
Regards
Alayne
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The trouble is the Lease is not enforced by law. Just feel sorry for people like you as you sound a very lovely cat person who looks after them.
People used to be shocked (in a good way!) when they discovered we had a dog but I worked hard to keep things clean. So do believe some people are fine. Estate agents who came in, then starting telling me all sorts of horror stories of unclean properties and from how I understood it, these were owner/occupiers trying to sell.
I have friends with pets and have been practically KOāed with the stench when they open their front doors!
Fingers crossed for you though. Let us know how you get on.
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when I was looking to buy a house We went to one particular house ā¦,on the gravel driveway were large dog droppings. The house was for sale but had tenants in it temporaryā¦ Inside the house smell was of dog. I opened and quickly closed a door under the stairs. The smell of dirty clothes and smelly socks. We left, and complained to the estate agentā¦ these tenants were doing no favour to the landlord.
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