Keep your eyes open as Tenant or Landlord

recent events in the media have highlighted the murder of a young child by a couple of absolute scumbags . We all need to be alert to abuse of humans ,especially children , so as tenants and landlords we need to be alert. Words cannot describe how I felt watching the news. So everyone take note of what is going on around you , if you suspect abuse report it and lets hope those "in charge " have more common sense than those involved in that recent apalling case

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Indeed. Safeguarding our vulnerable people is everyone’s responsibility.

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I agree, of course, that this case is utterly appalling, but unless one receives complaints, LLs cannot have x-ray vision as to what is going on. We really don’t need more responsibilities than have already been placed on us. Be careful what you wish for Colin.

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Not as a Landlord Anne !.,as a human being , I saw drug dealings ,reported it, man convicted and jailed. It just the right thing to do . Not suggesting we are nosey , but I cannot abide cruelty to animals or children. In all the cases over the last years opportunities to do something have been missed… How would we feel if we missed something. My words were to landlords and tenants

Yes, as a human being, I’m sure most LLs would act appropriately. I most certainly would, as you say, for children and animals. But I don’t want any more legislation dumped on LLs. It needs to be lessened, not increased. We have all been tarred with the same brush, and legislation is based on the lowest common denominator.

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Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with Colin, I have to also urge caution as you suggest Anne.
Iam a LL and also a taxi operator, taxi drivers in ERYC now have to sit an child awareness exam every 2 years, and now theres talk of a course for Dementia awareness. Add this to the DBS,mot,insurance,driving test, taxi test,right to work,medical,compliance certificate,plate certificate,ERSCB it gets to the point where its not worth the bother.Many LL are selling up now, wonder whats the next brainwave to come out of the pinco’s in Govt.

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Where was the need to be so rude Anne ?

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so far 10 people have liked my post at the start of the heading I am happy with that… Water off a ducks back

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Anne 1, hope you treat your tenants points of view with a bit more respect than your comments on this site.
Whatever can be done to eliminate another appalling act of this nature bring it on.

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A nice sentiment Colin, just do what you can do. In reality the laws are so against the Landlord we are very limited in what can be done except in extreme circumstances and suspect this is where Anne1 is coming from.
One warning sign is when the Tenant does absolutely everything they can to stop you going round the alarm bells start going off.
What is also not good is when the local paper prints the address of the property especially if it has other Tenants.
I have a Tenant currently who is facing a substantial prison sentence if found guilty on charges relating to minors. There is no rule book for dealing with this. The Tenant needs the address being on remand. The Police want to know where the Tenant is and the Council want the Tenants rights to be upheld so as Landlord you just have to suck it up

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Yes I get where you are coming from. Life is not easy. I was thinking that if we knew somthing wrong was going on we can let authorities know on the quiet Not ouselves going in as detectives. I have reported stuff thru Crimestoppers and saw good results …13million…private renters and 2.5 million landlords are quite a lot of eyes to look out for vunerable children and adults. If I saw someone being assaulted on the streets, even tho I am not a young man I would just have to try and help

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As one who suffered horrendous abuse as a child evacuee during the last war, I have very strong feelings on this subject. This treatment was not at all uncommon. The main problem was that none of the people who took in the children were vetted. Nothing. The evacuees detrained at the local station and were immediately taken to the nearest school hall were they were assembled to be chosen by whomsoever wanted to take them. A bit like a farmers’ market. My sister and me were evacuated to Marple in Cheshire where we were very fortunately placed with the town postmaster and his family. Here we were treated extremely well and had a wonderful time. However, the wife fell seriously ill and as a result we were taken to live with a local woman and her 12 year old daughter. Here, we were seriously ill-treated and subjected to abuse. One of the woman’s favourite forms of ‘amusement’ was to take my sister (then aged five) and stand her in a huge wooden tub in the back-yard and turn on a cold water tap to fill it. This was in mid-winter, hard to believe that someone could do this to a child. As a result of this and other forms of ‘punishment’, my sister suffered nightmares all her life and still cannot sleep without a light in the bedroom. She is 85, now. I wasn’t treated quite as badly for some reason, but for me it was being locked in dark coal-cellar and told it was full of ghosts. That and beatings. Fortunately, mother came to visit us, noticed how subdued we were, and took us away. We never told her about our treatment until we were much older. Too terrified.

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that is awful .How people can treat children like that is beyond me Such an effect for years on. . When I heard about Arthur on the 6 o clock news we were in tears. " who will love me" “who will feed me”" my dad is going to kill me" He said . I could not watch the 10 o clock news . I do nt think any news item has had such an effect on me. . Such perpetrators should have the same treatment metered out to them. I hope they suffer in prison

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Very true, Colin. I had very little self-confidence in my early years, and it certainly had a lasting effect on me.

Sidney 1 There is a problem for you . Such a person in your property. Is there a way out for you?

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Well bide ones time actually. The Crown Court released the person on bail pending reports but it is almost certain the person will be detained at Her Majesty’s pleasure in 2022 so that should resolve the issue. I did serve a section 21 but it was ignored and in real terms there is little i can do about it as the county courts are backed up. Additional concerns are some other (vigilante) person damaging the property as the address was published, a squatter getting in (by invitation) and what to do with the stuff left behind as there are no family members willing to get involved. …funny old life

wow that is a big problem . i think that eclipses any one elses probs

Yes that make my problems trivial. Blimey.

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