Nation of animal lovers unless you are a landlord it seems šŸ˜’

Hi Geoff
just read your post, I agree completely with your comments, there are a good and bad in all that to applies to pet owning tenants.
When I leave a property, I have sold or rented in any way the very last task for me is to leave the place clean.
Tennants who abuse should be accountable for their actions its called being responsible.
Regards
Alayne

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The personal circumstances of Tenants posting on here how well they manage their pets and how happy they would be to finance any damage is all ā€œpie in the skyā€ to me. I do not know the tenant applicant other than a brief interview where they could attempt to convince me Elvis us still alive and the moon Is made of cheese but would I believe that I would be able to live hassle free with tenants and their pets occupying my properties ā€¦ I think not!!
One pet leads to another etc and eventually a Zoo!
Filling in a sheet full of questions isnā€™t going to prove honesty or Long term intent regarding Pets which in itself could be anything from a poodle to a crocodile.
The best option is to say no to pets, period

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Thanks for that Geoff, what can I say to that?
All I can say is the experience has made you very bitter, and hostile toward us pet owners,
I donā€™t see it as a god given right to take a pet into a property it is a privilege these days and renting property to the most suitable applicant a nightmare and a great risk as these days there are a lot ofā€¦ People who have no thought, care or respect for anything or anybody even themselves but will do what they like regardless or the pain and upset they cause, the law is an ass, they should be held accountable.
However you cannot lump is all together as not to be trusted, I for one do not belong to a group of people that behave in that way, my pets have distractions etc and what damage they cause is minimal and repairable, so I speak out against your condemnation of All pet owners that do not behave in that way.
Is is sad to hear how upset and resentful this has made you but you cannot blame us all.
Kind regards
Alayne

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Hi Chris
I agree the government is needs to provide pet bonds, Landlords need protection against the pet damage etc.
Itā€™s that simple
Kind regards
Alayne

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Correction three person audience Martin and I agree with you, we need to begin a petition and take it to Boris.
Kind regards
Alayne

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Be our guest. Maybe the government will listen to tenants, because they sure as h.ll donā€™t listen to landlordsā€¦!!

Set up a petition amongst your pet loving tenant friends for pet rent and pet bonds, and when you get 100,000 signatures (??), your petition will get a hearing in the House of Commons.

Until that time, my adverts will always reject pets.

I hold out little hope for you as you, being a considerate pet owner, are in a distinct minority. Too large a proportion of the tenant population, do not take one iota of responsibility for their or their pets actions, and guess who is always left suffering the consequences.

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pet bonds wont work as that will need a ā€œcomitteeā€ to administer. Who would pay? the landlord of course ! We want as little as possible to do with paperwork .we have loads ,the tenant has hardly any . Tenants pay no fee the landlord pays a large amount. Thats why many rents are high. These are business costs that must be paid by someone. Gas check, electric check, landlord license, cleaning costs, reference checks, ,letting fees to the landlord or Open rentā€¦ have I missed anyā€¦??

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I have no doubt that In truth not every pet owner is the same but how does a landlord distinguish a bad tenant With pets from a good one? To us Landlords applicants are total strangers who from experience can and do tell us anything to get through the door and once inside reap havoc. Itā€™s a gamble with any tenant but an even greater risk with a tenant hosting pets.
The problems start issues the pets cause, i.e damage, nuisance barking, aggression, and lack of general pet management. In all cases itā€™s the Landlord who ends up with the mess and hassle, the tenant simply moves on and with a limited number of available pet friendly properties it can sometimes be a long protracted scenario getting the tenant to actually move!
Now I ask, if you were a Landlord how happy would you feel renting to pet owners knowing the potential hassle you might get???

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Hi Geoff
I wouldnā€™t unless I knew them well and could cover myself in any situation with the pet, but itā€™s that simple.
I can say I blame any landlords for refusing pets, smokers, etc
Why would you take a risk that is not calculable.
Of course doesnā€™t help me, but I will keep trying for a property with a landlord who can see I am of my word, that is all I can do.
Kind regards
alayne

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Hi Chris35
Interesting response thanks, I cannot blame any landlord for refusing pets, itā€™s a travesty.
However I will look into the petition angle and keep you posted.
I could always write to Boris???
Kind regards
Alayne

Out of 8 rentals only 2 donā€™t have pets in my portfolio currently. Not had problems yet with pet owners except once with a Tennant who got cats without permission and left the place with fleas and damaged carpet. I have however over 12 years had far more non pet owning tennants who trashed the place didnā€™t pay rent etc. Every one of these problem ones were agent sourced. Since doing it myself (via openrent), Iā€™ve never had a problem nor a void nor any additional effort. Could be coincidence, but the learning for meā€¦ agents cause more issues than they solve, both for me and tennants, as their drive is different to mine. Pet owners tend to be more respectful and frankly thankful. Some additional contextā€¦ I own DHH group, franchise hq for doggieholidayhomes.com two tennants work in the organisation so my leaning and experience may be skewed. Stillā€¦ Iā€™ve raised this before. I dont feel there is more risk overall and on average having tennants with pets.

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Hi David10
Your views.regarding pets in your properties is heartwarming. There are virtually no pet friendly landlords , it seems .
They say pet friendly but read the property speck no pets sorry. I find this disheartening as I am looking for a property with 3 house cats who are clean and flee free. They are house trained, Iā€™m not saying they are perfect but I repair any damage they happen to cause but theyā€™re not really bad.
Estate agents just say oh! No landlords will not entertain you with pets
I do understand how bad it can be for landlords but itā€™s almost impossible to make progress
Very disillusioned.
Alayne

Hi, Iā€™m Julia
Me and my husband separated last month and Iā€™m desperately looking for me and my 11.5 years old Labrador
Currently Iā€™m in a military house but I have around 3 months to look for somewhere.
I finding it a real struggle finding a place .Im a health care agency worker who is in full time employment (I do nights)
I currently live in Wiltshire near Chippenham , Iā€™m hoping I find a place for us , other wise I looking at getting a tent :slightly_frowning_face:

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Hi Julia
Sorry to hear you are in this difficult predicament.
I am also looking for a property,though itā€™s by choice.Having 3 house cats is my issue
Ads say pet friendly but practically no one takes pets due to risks to their properties,the local council if you havenā€™t already contacted them should be approached.
I think a tent could be the easiest option for us both.lol
Best wishes
Alayne

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Julia, I just donā€™t understand how people in rented accommodation can and without a second thought decide to have a pet in the first place. When they do, and find it problematic to find housing because they have a pet they then turn their frustration towards Landlords who in the main have been used and abused by belligerent pet owning tenants who feel they have a perfect right to impose their ark of animals into their properties.
I find it totally irresponsible of Pet Breeders who supply animals to people in rented accommodation who will more than likely find difficulty in ensuing years in finding a ā€œpet friendlyā€ home.
The government are offering a Tenancy Agreement that includes pet housing (to Landlords who wish to use it) however, they do state ā€œwell behaved petsā€ which is clearly not possible to demonstrate in the case of a young pup which will chew everything in sight.
There are also the issues of neighbour disturbance, pet aggression, damage and maintaining clean outside areas, all of which meet with instant promises and assurances from the tenant. The reality is that once they have the keys to the property the commitments they originally made are empty words and all the problems fall at the feet of the Landlord to resolve.
My advice to Tenants with pets is to get a mortgage. You can then have as many dogs, cats and crocodiles as you wish in your own house but!..never in mine.

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Thatā€™s how it should be Anne. A bit of give and take. I have been a tenant where I am now for 9 years, My landlord couldnā€™t be more neglectful if he tried, to the point that Iā€™ve been burgled twice and both times he wouldnā€™t pick up my calls or return messages and I had to call a locksmith to sort out the door, the last time he eventually agreed to install another lock on my door but that is about it. I carpet clean the house every other year and have repainted it entirely twice as well as laying down new flooring in the bathroom and toilet.
Now I have my partner and his elderly house cat living with me and we want to move to a bigger place with a garden. Well we canā€™t even get a viewing. I donā€™t care what anybody says, this is unfair.
I had a cleaning business before specialising in End of Tenancy cleans, and the worst damage I ever saw was done by children, humans and dogs in that order, not by house cats. To me it is discriminatory and unfair and they are loosing out on great tenants by not even bothering to look at this on a case by case basis.

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All Landlords should be like you. What a star. You clearly know that tenants are people too and have the normal things in life. Thank you.

I find Geoff fascinating. If society were sane, you wouldnā€™t have so many people being so desperate for housing, a basic need

I have been looking for months, no one will even give you a chance. I only have one small dog and even that is an automatic rejection. Yet people with children that rip the wallpaper off the walls, scribble over everything, fill the garden full of plastic rubbish can find something easily.

young children will not find a place with me

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